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		<title>By: Marcia</title>
		<link>http://lovethatfeeling.com/blog/what-my-kid-a-juvenile-delinquent/comment-page-1/#comment-681</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Russ - It&#039;s a beautiful story about you and your step-daughter, and unfortunately or fortunately (however people wish to take it) it happens all to often.  

In our case, my son Andy, who turns 34 this year, became a single Dad of three almost eight years ago.  Valerie was 6, Andrew was 4, and Hunter was 2.  To make things even harder, he was not only left to support and care for three children, he was left to care for a  child  who is autistic and has cerebral palsy.  Andrew was diagnosed when  he was 3.  Their biological mother walked out on them and they have  not seen her, heard from her, received a birthday card, Christmas  gift, or just a note to ask &quot;how are you&quot; in seven years.  And though the court awarded my son sole custody of the children (the  fortunate part), he has had no luck collecting the back child  support - which is now close to $30,000  (the unfortunate part).   

Then came his second wife who he lived  with for five years before  marrying again.  You&#039;d think after five years it would be &quot;OK&quot;?

Unfortunately, no.  

She decided  she  was too young to help care for a handicapped child and didn&#039;t want to be tied down like that for the rest of her life.  And  it&#039;s unfortunate that Dad&#039;s get the bad rap most of the time because it&#039;s not just them, it&#039;s the Mom&#039;s also who become dead beats and don&#039;t seek out their children.  On the fortunate side -  and where I shall leave this, my son has three wonderful children  - Valerie is now 14, Andrew is 12, and Hunter just turned 9.  They thrive under the  loving care of their father, their grandmother, their aunts, and their uncles.  So never fear, your &quot;daughter&quot;  knows you will be there for her also.

Hugs to all of you and prayers for your upcoming mission -
Marcia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Russ &#8211; It&#8217;s a beautiful story about you and your step-daughter, and unfortunately or fortunately (however people wish to take it) it happens all to often.  </p>
<p>In our case, my son Andy, who turns 34 this year, became a single Dad of three almost eight years ago.  Valerie was 6, Andrew was 4, and Hunter was 2.  To make things even harder, he was not only left to support and care for three children, he was left to care for a  child  who is autistic and has cerebral palsy.  Andrew was diagnosed when  he was 3.  Their biological mother walked out on them and they have  not seen her, heard from her, received a birthday card, Christmas  gift, or just a note to ask &#8220;how are you&#8221; in seven years.  And though the court awarded my son sole custody of the children (the  fortunate part), he has had no luck collecting the back child  support &#8211; which is now close to $30,000  (the unfortunate part).   </p>
<p>Then came his second wife who he lived  with for five years before  marrying again.  You&#8217;d think after five years it would be &#8220;OK&#8221;?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, no.  </p>
<p>She decided  she  was too young to help care for a handicapped child and didn&#8217;t want to be tied down like that for the rest of her life.  And  it&#8217;s unfortunate that Dad&#8217;s get the bad rap most of the time because it&#8217;s not just them, it&#8217;s the Mom&#8217;s also who become dead beats and don&#8217;t seek out their children.  On the fortunate side &#8211;  and where I shall leave this, my son has three wonderful children  &#8211; Valerie is now 14, Andrew is 12, and Hunter just turned 9.  They thrive under the  loving care of their father, their grandmother, their aunts, and their uncles.  So never fear, your &#8220;daughter&#8221;  knows you will be there for her also.</p>
<p>Hugs to all of you and prayers for your upcoming mission -<br />
Marcia</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sentiments are with Ambrosia 100%. 

Back in my school days, I was Ambrosia - &quot;too much&quot; imagination and too much energy. If they&#039;d been drugging up &quot;unruly&quot; kids back in the fifties, I would surely have been dosed to the gills. But was I ADHD? Aw hell no. There were just other things I&#039;d rather have been doing... like reading. I went through books like other kids consumed candy bars. 

Too bad Ambrosia&#039;s teachers expect obedient, compliant followers and choose to penalize independence, individuality and a healthy personality. 

The only way your daughter is going to end up a delinquent is if they are determined to push her there. It&#039;s just so sad: &quot;This child disrespects me by refusing to obey me, so therefore she&#039;s bad, and headed for worse.&quot;

For a VERY contrarian take on the entire educational system, read John Taylor Gatto&#039;s damning indictment, &quot;The Underground History of American Education,&quot; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johntaylorgatto.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.johntaylorgatto.com&lt;/a&gt; or buy it from Amazon.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Only one nation refused to accept the psychology of submission. The
Chechens never sought to please, to ingratiate themselves with the
bosses; their attitude was always haughty and indeed openly
hostile.... And here is the extraordinary thing—everyone was afraid of
them. No one could stop them from living as they did. The regime which
had ruled the land for thirty years could not force them to respect
its laws.
— Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago&lt;/blockquote&gt;





&lt;blockquote&gt;The history of the Hmong yields several lessons that anyone who deals
with them might do well to remember. Among the most obvious are that
the Hmong do not like to take orders; that they do not like to lose;
that they would rather flee, fight, or die than surrender; that they
are not intimidated by being outnumbered, that they are rarely
persuaded that the customs of other cultures, even those more powerful
than their own are superior; that they are capable of getting very
angry....Those who have tried to defeat, deceive, govern, regulate,
constrain, assimilate, or patronize the Hmong have, as a rule,
disliked them intensely.
— Anne Fadiman, The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down&lt;/blockquote&gt;





&lt;blockquote&gt;If they mean to have a war, let it begin here
— Captain John Parker, commanding the American militia against the
British. Said at first light, Lexington, Massachusetts, April 19, 1775 &lt;/blockquote&gt;



~Charles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sentiments are with Ambrosia 100%. </p>
<p>Back in my school days, I was Ambrosia &#8211; &#8220;too much&#8221; imagination and too much energy. If they&#8217;d been drugging up &#8220;unruly&#8221; kids back in the fifties, I would surely have been dosed to the gills. But was I ADHD? Aw hell no. There were just other things I&#8217;d rather have been doing&#8230; like reading. I went through books like other kids consumed candy bars. </p>
<p>Too bad Ambrosia&#8217;s teachers expect obedient, compliant followers and choose to penalize independence, individuality and a healthy personality. </p>
<p>The only way your daughter is going to end up a delinquent is if they are determined to push her there. It&#8217;s just so sad: &#8220;This child disrespects me by refusing to obey me, so therefore she&#8217;s bad, and headed for worse.&#8221;</p>
<p>For a VERY contrarian take on the entire educational system, read John Taylor Gatto&#8217;s damning indictment, &#8220;The Underground History of American Education,&#8221; at <a href="http://www.johntaylorgatto.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.johntaylorgatto.com</a> or buy it from Amazon.</p>
<blockquote><p>Only one nation refused to accept the psychology of submission. The<br />
Chechens never sought to please, to ingratiate themselves with the<br />
bosses; their attitude was always haughty and indeed openly<br />
hostile&#8230;. And here is the extraordinary thing—everyone was afraid of<br />
them. No one could stop them from living as they did. The regime which<br />
had ruled the land for thirty years could not force them to respect<br />
its laws.<br />
— Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The history of the Hmong yields several lessons that anyone who deals<br />
with them might do well to remember. Among the most obvious are that<br />
the Hmong do not like to take orders; that they do not like to lose;<br />
that they would rather flee, fight, or die than surrender; that they<br />
are not intimidated by being outnumbered, that they are rarely<br />
persuaded that the customs of other cultures, even those more powerful<br />
than their own are superior; that they are capable of getting very<br />
angry&#8230;.Those who have tried to defeat, deceive, govern, regulate,<br />
constrain, assimilate, or patronize the Hmong have, as a rule,<br />
disliked them intensely.<br />
— Anne Fadiman, The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>If they mean to have a war, let it begin here<br />
— Captain John Parker, commanding the American militia against the<br />
British. Said at first light, Lexington, Massachusetts, April 19, 1775 </p></blockquote>
<p>~Charles</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://lovethatfeeling.com/blog/what-my-kid-a-juvenile-delinquent/comment-page-1/#comment-677</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ADHD doesn&#039;t always mean bouncing off the walls nor does it mean prescription drugs. Katy was finally diagnosed with ADHD inattentive when she was 14 years old. Getting her coded with an IEP changed everything in school--teachers stopped looking at her like she was deliberately causing trouble or refusing to do work. Katy also works slowly....she is allowed extra time. Her grades have soared. You seem resistant to testing Ambrosia, but you could be doing her a disservice. Some teachers are just jerks--but if your daughter is given license to think so at this point, it won&#039;t go well for her. The good news is that ADHD issues often are outgrown to a point when people learn to cope with them. Our Katy tried the presecription drugs for a bit, realized they did nothing for her, and quit taking them. She finds that a cup of coffee works best. And no, it doesn&#039;t keep her up at night. Caffeine doesn&#039;t affect people with ADHD issues the same way it would others. Anyway, I&#039;m just saying...don&#039;t discount having Ambrosia privately tested. If nothing else, it tells you her IQ, her learning style and may uncover a hidden issue you don&#039;t know about. When other kids can sit in class and behave and yours can&#039;t, it&#039;s not ALWAYS the teacher. (but yeah getting a bad label from the teacher sure makes things worse....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ADHD doesn&#8217;t always mean bouncing off the walls nor does it mean prescription drugs. Katy was finally diagnosed with ADHD inattentive when she was 14 years old. Getting her coded with an IEP changed everything in school&#8211;teachers stopped looking at her like she was deliberately causing trouble or refusing to do work. Katy also works slowly&#8230;.she is allowed extra time. Her grades have soared. You seem resistant to testing Ambrosia, but you could be doing her a disservice. Some teachers are just jerks&#8211;but if your daughter is given license to think so at this point, it won&#8217;t go well for her. The good news is that ADHD issues often are outgrown to a point when people learn to cope with them. Our Katy tried the presecription drugs for a bit, realized they did nothing for her, and quit taking them. She finds that a cup of coffee works best. And no, it doesn&#8217;t keep her up at night. Caffeine doesn&#8217;t affect people with ADHD issues the same way it would others. Anyway, I&#8217;m just saying&#8230;don&#8217;t discount having Ambrosia privately tested. If nothing else, it tells you her IQ, her learning style and may uncover a hidden issue you don&#8217;t know about. When other kids can sit in class and behave and yours can&#8217;t, it&#8217;s not ALWAYS the teacher. (but yeah getting a bad label from the teacher sure makes things worse&#8230;.)</p>
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